will be using in 10 degree temps
will be using in 10 degree temps
I would get the quilt for the temps you will be in. 0* quilt will keep you warm for sure in 10 degree temps while a 20 may not even overstuffed.
I would consider what temps at which you plan to spend MOST of your time camping.
I wouldn't want to carry a 0 degree rig all the time if I'm only looking at pushing the limits of a 20 degree set up, on a rare or very infrequent basis.
I've gone to about 17 degrees with my 20 degree UQ + 40 degree TQ, supplemented with med base layers, fleece hood, and socks. Instead of looking for more down to accommodate a drop to 10 or lower, I'd try further supplementing with CCF and/or Reflectex, maybe heavier base layers, maybe not. Hot Water Bottle! Especially if I didn't expect or prefer to camp at those temps MOST of the time.
I'm not even sure a 0 degree kit will fit comfortably for me in less than 4500 cu in.
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." Ralph Waldo Emerson
I agree with SS. a 20* set up is fine for your normal gear. I use a combination of items depending on temps. My DIY JCpenny quilt will supplement under me and a army green patrol bag fits nicely inside of my 30* top quilt. That combination will get me around 0* easily.
Despite being in NC I know that the Asheville area can be cold so I understand the need for a warmer quilt than 20F. I was encouraging my hiking buddy, who lives in Asheville, to test his hammock a couple of weeks ago when the temp was 3F.
If you decide between the 20+4 vs. the 0, I recommend the 0. For a regular width quilt they both will be about the same weight:
Burrow 20 regular 17.3oz + 4 = 21.3oz
Burrow 0 regular = 21.6oz
The benefit of the 0 is that baffles will be slightly higher and therefore provide more loft which is key for insulation with down.
If you go for the extra width, then there is about 2.5oz difference in weight:
Burrow 20 regular wide 18.7oz + 4 = 22.7oz
Burrow 0 regular wide = 25.3oz
I would still recommend that 0F.
I considered this same issue when buying a incubator a few weeks ago. I bought the 20F with +2oz down because 20F will be more useful to me regularly, but if I faced 10F or lower, my plan is to supplement it with a wide, 1/4" CCF pad (about 6.5oz). I usually carry this anyway in case I have to go-to-ground for some reason. For a top quilt, the CCF pad isn't an option, so one must supplement the 20F bag with extra clothes or something else. Normally that extra something else (cloths, etc.) will weigh more than the 2.5oz difference between 0 and 20+4 burrow difference, so in this case the 0F bag would be worth it.
Bryan
Not sure if you already ordered an UQ, but I recently got a HG Custom Incubator 10°. Worked out perfect.
When you order the 20° Incubator add 2oz of down and in the comments section ask them to build it to 10° specs. They will increase the baffle height (to 3") for you at no extra cost. Its a pretty sweet set up/compromise for the "should I go 0° or 20°" crowd (which was me).
“The word hammockable (Meaning: two trees that are the perfect distance apart between which a hammock can be hung) is not in the dictionary, but it should be.”
The higher hills in North Carolina regularly see temps that are as cold as what we get in the hills in Western Mass. It's not uncommon for them to be skiing before us too.
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