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    Question ultralite sleep system?

    Hello, Hello

    I am searching for the ultimate ultralite hanging system for my ATthru in march.

    Qualities Looking for: Lightest available, comfortable, weatherproof

    I currently carry a HH Deluxe, but I WILL be making another (lighter) hammock purchase.

    Ultralite Items Needed:

    Hammock: comfort/Bugnet(detachable-perm.)?

    Tarp: Winter/3-Season/Summer/Sock ?

    Insulation: UQ/Pad/TQ/Sock?


    My goal is to keep my total winter pack down to 20# and summer pack down to 15#. Is it possible to have a winter sleep system under or at 3#?


    I love to hear what you all have to say, and thanks again to Hooch for your advice and wealth of info you have already given me.

    Diamond Diggs(a.k.a.-The Vagabond-onWB)

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    evidently, this thread had some issues getting on the board and others being able to reply to it. I hope this fixes the problem.... look forward to all responses

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    THE ultimate setup, huh? That's a pretty tall order. Especially b/c it will vary by opinion and exactly what YOUR priorities are. And what season you're hiking in, so your kit will probably vary while you're on the trail.

    I'm sure you'll get lots of opinions...here's one example.

    Warbonnet Blackbird hammock
    OES MacCat Deluxe tarp
    JRB Mt Washington 4 for top quilt
    JRB Hood
    Half-Underquilt (Te-Wa, Warbonnet Yeti Winter version, or JRB convertible MW)
    Torso-length CCF pad for under your legs

    In the summer, you'll scale back to a much thinner underquilt and top quilt, like a JRB Stealth.

    Another approach:
    Speer III
    Speer PeaPod
    Speer SnugFit
    Speer Top Blanket
    Speer 11x10 Cat Tarp

    As it warms up, send home the SnugFit and just use the PeaPod and Top Blanket. As it warms up even more, send the PeaPod back home and just use the SnugFit and Top Blanket.

    Even those have trade-off, though. If all you're looking for is light weight, you can't get any lighter than a couple of CCF pads. Stack them with a SPE for a bit of convenience. This is much bulkier than other options, of course.

    So there really isn't an "ultimate" ultralight kit but I'm sure you can find something to fit your needs.
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    You can get my with a smaller tarp if you use a hammock sock b/c the sock will protect your hammock (and toes!) from the wind. Waterproof ends will help in case rain blows in...one of mine has silnylon ends with a DWR main body. Then just send that home as the weather warms up.
    “Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall when the wise are banished from the public councils because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.” ~Judge Joseph Story

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    Another potential setup -

    Hammock - Warbonnet Traveler
    Tarp - OES MacCat Deluxe in SpinnUL
    BugNet - Warbonnet Traveler Bug Net (bounce box this and use it only when bugs are out)
    UQ - JRB MW3-C (Convertible UQ, send the unneeded foot section home when it warms up)
    TQ - JRB No Sniveler
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    Hey, welcome aboard! I'm glad you made it to HF with us. I was going to tell you what good advice you'd get here, but I see it's already started. Hope to see you in a couple weeks in Hot Springs.
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    I was hoping that would work! That would potentially save quite a bit of weight dont you think?
    A smaller diagonal silnylon rain fly (only two stakes), and a ultra lite weather sock to block wind and side blowing rain/snow?

    Is there any new material out there yet that is lighter than silnylon and just as durable?

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    Yeah - that would a great setup for most of the trail. You think it would get him thru the smokies in winter though?

    Could always augment with a 1/2" CCF pad just for a few weeks, though. Would be much cheaper than the systems I listed, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
    Hey, welcome aboard! I'm glad you made it to HF with us. I was going to tell you what good advice you'd get here, but I see it's already started. Hope to see you in a couple weeks in Hot Springs.
    For Sure x2! Really good advice, and I am looking forward to Hot Springs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Diggs View Post
    Is there any new material out there yet that is lighter than silnylon and just as durable?
    For tarps, Spinnaker (SpinnUL) is lighter. OES makes them to order.
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