ENO unveils "lightest hammock on the market"

**Mr. Jowee** · 01-25-2015, 15:43

http://gearjunkie.com/best-in-show-o...iler-2015?pg=9

At 6.5oz, the ENO Sub7 Hammock certainly is light. It's also tiny. REI lists the specs at 105" x 47". At well under 9' long, I don't see anyone getting a flat lay in this thing. It's too bad, really. ENO has massive market saturation. I can foresee plenty of people buying this and giving up on hammocks all together because they just don't fit in it. Then again, it would be perfect for someone shorter.

Pre-order available at REI: http://www.rei.com/product/882672/eno-sub7-hammock

**peterhase** · 01-25-2015, 15:48

Wow, that's impressive. Might have to get one myself for those warmer summer hangs...

**DuctTape** · 01-25-2015, 15:51

I like the shorter hammocks. Definitely going to try this out.

**lilricky** · 01-25-2015, 16:24

I pointed this out on ENO's page for the Sub7. Just using my modest math skills, you would have to be under 5'3" to achieve a 20 degree flay lay on this thing. I then suggested they look into lighter weight fabrics like Argon or PolyD. Although thinking in hindsight, perhaps I shouldn't give them too many ideas as they aren't one of our cottage industries....
EDIT: Just took out the Argon/PolyD suggestion from my post over there: https://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc..../sub7-hammock/

Originally Posted by Mr. Jowee

http://gearjunkie.com/best-in-show-o...iler-2015?pg=9

At 6.5oz, the ENO Sub7 Hammock certainly is light. It's also tiny. REI lists the specs at 105" x 47". At well under 9' long, I don't see anyone getting a flat lay in this thing. It's too bad, really. ENO has massive market saturation. I can foresee plenty of people buying this and giving up on hammocks all together because they just don't fit in it. Then again, it would be perfect for someone shorter.

Pre-order available at REI: http://www.rei.com/product/882672/eno-sub7-hammock

**FLRider** · 01-26-2015, 10:59

Eh.

For me, at least, this is down into "stupid light", as Mr. Skurka calls it. The weight savings (6.5 oz versus 8 oz for an 11', 58"" wide post-hem 1.0 HyperD hammock) of 1.5 oz over the lightest weight 11'er for me (at ~195 lbs) isn't worth the lost recuperation versus the longer hammock. And I'm probably in their target demographic for this: I cut weight pretty much everywhere I can in order to be able to crank out looooong days on trail. Thing is, good sleep goes a very long way in ensuring that I can crank out those long days...the recuperation keeps me from bonking on the third or fourth day of high-end exertion.

YMMV, of course.

**BillyBob58** · 01-26-2015, 15:04

Originally Posted by DuctTape

I like the shorter hammocks. Definitely going to try this out.

I might also have to try it just to see how the comfort is, for one reason: it would probably be the perfect hammock for a PeaPod. I know that will seem a ridiculous gamble to many considering my 6'1" height. But I have had some counter-intuitive results with various hammocks over the years, so you never know. This is 8.75 ft long. I still rate my Speer 8.5 as one of my more comfy hammocks overall. (I have never measured, but it might be actually a 9 foot hammock) True, I need something under my knees to avoid knee extension, as I still do with some longer hammocks. And I can not lay on my side with legs straight, to much waist discomfort. But with something under my knees I am just as comfy flat on my back as any other hammock, ans also very comfy in fetal, and NO evil calf ridge! And I have none of those problems in my Claytor No Net(10 ft), and I used to be mighty comfy with some of the same problems as the Speer, in my HH UL Explorer, but it is a little longer at almost 10.5 ft. Anyway, I am tempted to give it a try as a potentially excellent with a PeaPod design.

**doctor patches** · 01-30-2015, 19:28

I hang in a GT Nano7 now, and i've removed the stock biners and attached stuff sack, but the dimensions of the smaller hammock are really restricting when i'm hanging. I'm thinking i might go with a larger hammock and switch to lighter gear elsewhere to offset the difference.

That being said, i'm not familiar with many others who hang in a GT Nano7, so the only thing i see ENO having on their side is market saturation and the "lay" camper from REI (no offense, i love REI). I'd much rather see a "traditional" sized gathered end hammock that is as light as possible, resizing the hammock in the name of weight savings isn't very logical. However, offering a hammock model in various sizes (customization/options are a big benefit in my eyes) would be an awesome approach for the market. We'll see how this all plays out.

**fallkniven** · 01-30-2015, 23:14

The Grand Trunk Nano is 5oz and $10 cheaper and has been out for a long time....

**SilvrSurfr** · 01-30-2015, 23:26

Originally Posted by fallkniven

The Grand Trunk Nano is 5oz and $10 cheaper and has been out for a long time....

You talking about the GT Nano 7? It's 8.2 oz. according to their website:

https://grandtrunk.wpengine.com/shop/nano-7-hammock/

**fallkniven** · 02-01-2015, 13:30

Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr

You talking about the GT Nano 7? It's 8.2 oz. according to their website:

https://grandtrunk.wpengine.com/shop/nano-7-hammock/

You believe everything you read on the internet? Ha. Actually you type " GT Nano 7" in yahoo and click the first link, you'll see this......

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/revi...erek%20Hansen/

5 oz (142 g) Hammock Only
7 oz (198 g) Hammock + rope
15.7 oz (445 g) Hammock + rope + carabiners + webbing