...not so much natural insulation, if I do say so myself; rather, I generate a lot of heat.Originally Posted by Newzy
The Frog Sac goes on top of me with a foot box rigged. The Wiggys poncho liner is oriented on the diagonal, with one corner tucked under my feet, the opposite corner over my head, and the port and starboard corners tucked under each side. I wear a wool vest, gore-tex pants and down booties on really cold nights!
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It is pretty small. 6 feet long, and I think 3 feet wide. Just big enough to cover me without any air gaps. Pakcs down without compressing it to about 6 inches by 14 inches. Just rough guesses from memory though. It does pack larger than a poncho liner, but it also gets me 20* colder.
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All in all I'm very pleased with my PL's. In june here in GA I experimented with them a little. The first night I put one under me in the hammock and one as a top quilt. I was warm mostly except for the cold spots where I was compressing the batting under me. The next night I used two under me and one on top. That was a great temperature.
I didn't get to attempt an under-quilt configuration but I think it would work well enough to justify the cost savings initially but I do want to pick up a good under quilt eventually. I can't see me ever camping in an extreme cold that would require a peapod or anything warmer than a PL top quilt.
I have used my poncho liner down to about 40 degrees also. I have used it under me, as well as on top. as far as a unde quilt, I think someone from down under had a tutorial for it without sewing. I plan on getting a wiggy's for use as a three season tq.
I've always been crazy, but it's kept me from going insane. - Waylon Jennings
Here in florida I usually sleep directly on top of my poncho liner,If I get cool I wrap up in in cocoon style and if its more than slightly cool I add more clothes, a pair of wool socks, and occasionally a synthetic fleece blanket. Ive never needed more than that. We are headed to N. Georgia for the first week of October to do 5 days on the AT. I am thinking of turning my poncho liner into an underquilt and using my mid temp range sleeping bag unzipped on top of me. Im hoping Ill be warm enough like this, I dont really have the $$ right now to buy new gear for one week of non-florida camping.
I agree, really heavy for no more insulation than they give, and they compress easily. I lived in a ponch and ponch liner in Viet Nam, and back then they were the best, dried out fast, warm enough for most cool nights during monsoon, but that was then, now is now. That's just my opinion and not probably the best one either. Just had to agree with Pan.
Predictions are risky, especially when it comes to the future.
i agree they are extra heavy compared to alot of options on the market, (the poncho is even heavier!), but at the cost savings, the extra ounces can be well worth it. The military tends to make everything heavier than it HAS to be (heck, Im still hiking with my 9 pound Molle system pack because I cant afford a good quality lightweight one). I am slowly replacing my military gear with more "hiking" designed items, but when I break it down into priorities, my poncho liner underquilt is just fine without spending extra money I could be saving to replace my pack!
I was wondering the same thing about the good old stone age wool blanket. Since it will not compress like a quilt, will it work as an under quilt?
Just a Florida boy, be nice.
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Yep, the wool is heavy and does not pack well but everyone knows that, but would it work?
I have two poncho liners also but they suck when they get wet
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