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  1. #11
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    I just made a couple UPQ out of Argon .9 from Dutch. Haven't had a chance to get out and use them yet - but they're niiiiiiiiice.

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    I add another vote for 2QZQ. I have a breathable protector. It has protected me through fairly heavy rainfall, has very good wind protection capability separate from the moisture protection. I see it as complementing my underquilt features.

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    Waterproof on top. Breathable below.

    Always.

    Spray a water hose on your rig. Do you want it to fill up and crash to the ground?
    I love the unimproved works of God. - Horace Kephart

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    Yep I have the 2qzq breathable which I will be testing out tonight. Going to get down to about freezing tonight.
    Last edited by Tacoma96; 12-28-2014 at 20:24.
    Straight out of Clayton.

    Most physical hike: Grandfather Mountain, NC. Aug 13.

    I don't need to make my pack lighter. I need to make my (_*_) lighter.

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    I started with waterproof and switched to breathable after one night in freezing temps reminded me about condensation. That said, it sounds like you might have in your mind a "one" solution for all conditions/situations - which will drive you mad. For me, I understand that breathable isn't waterproof. I rely on the tarp for that. The UQP keeps things cleaner, gives a layer for frost to form outside the UQ, helps with convection loss, etc. As we are in mid-winter, these days I use a (breathable) sock. And until I get used to tarps with doors, I use the sock in the summer too. But once my Tarp-age gets squared away, I'll probably move back to UQP's and bug nets.

    I use 2QZQ UQP too, but they come in breathable or waterproof versions. So just saying "2QZQ" misses the question (breathable vs waterproof) a little.

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