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    Senior Member perdidochas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLRider View Post
    All I have to say is, "Better you than me."

    I'd much rather get up and deal with being chilly for less than five minutes than possibly wind up with...ahem..."spillage" in the place where I sleep.

    YMMV, as always.
    I tend to agree.
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    Okay - this is nothing new, well at least the concept. Fly fishermen wearing lots of insulation and being far from tree cover have a similar need.

    This was one of the attributes of the bottom entry HH. You could, if you had to, relieve yourself via the bottom entry.
    Thoughts:
    1. If you sleep in a warm layer(s) getting up at night is not so bad, slip on your Crocs and go. This is my preferred method.
    2. One could also use a pee bottle, keeping it and the warmth in the hammock with them - I prefer not to, but I live in the southeast with mostly mild winters.
    3. Or..you could use a pee tube, I wouldn't knock it in really cold temps.

    Bottom line is it depends on how freakin cold it is and how hard the wind is blowing, maintaining your body temp in a tough situation will cause you to be very practical.
    Last edited by trouthunter; 12-12-2014 at 02:17.
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    Suppose you could also dig a little hole below your hammock beforehand..

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    It appears that there will be few converts to this practice...that's cool. Everyone can do things in their own way. But I do think the risks have been been drastically overestimated by folks who wouldn't try it. There are no Beijing-style roving urine clouds, no sesspools at the foot of the hammock...just a small hole in the snow. It's quite easy to avoid mistakes. Finally, getting up is not the problem I'm addressing here....it's warming my quilts back up in sub-freezing temps. This can take a long time for me...time I now spend sleeping.

    As an aside, I simply boil a few more ounces of water in the morning to rinse. I store the extension on the outside of my pack. I'm a rather fastidious person in general, and my process falls well within acceptable tolerances for me.

    Your way is cool too.

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    LOL...my first reply was not a dissing of the idea. I actually kinda like it. Just trying to wrap my head around it. Got me thinking and I remembered that I have about 5 feet of 2 inch diameter tygon tubing... I could cut that up and use a velcro strap to loop it to my back.

    It's a new idea, Gravity. It may take, it may not, but NEVER stop thinking of a better mouse trap!
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    To go for a walk or lay above evaporating urine.....hyoh guys, just hang a fair walk away from me!

    Ur-in your hammock.....no thanks, I try to minimize the foreign particles in mine.

    Keep up the outside the hammock thinking hough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainm View Post
    ... leave behind most of the other chemicals and bacteria ...
    No bacteria - unless you've got a UTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatBigDave View Post
    No bacteria - unless you've got a UTI.
    Wrong. Urine is not sterile

    https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/gor...ither-rest-you

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    I'm waiting for someone to start the "I pissed my hammock and quilts because I was too ______ to get out and do it properly!" thread. Horror stories from beyond the loo!
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    Interesting, thanks.
    Is everything I know wrong?
    My kids are only 12 - I figured I had another year or so before I became bereft of any relevant knowledge.

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