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  1. Haven't you now taken it down to about 28F...

    Haven't you now taken it down to about 28F without adding anything? If so, you might be near the head of the pack. Except for one guy we have not heard from for years(hope he didn't freeze), who used...
  2. Thread: Cold Front

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    Not bad!

    Not bad!
  3. breath hitting the sides and condensing when side sleeping?

    Thanks for the kind words, OldPappy! You have just given me an idea. Maybe what you say about getting the condensation while side sleeping explains the problems some people(but not Framjam) report?...
  4. It does make sense. But I don't suppose you have...

    It does make sense. But I don't suppose you have any pictures? I have experimented a bit with placing an UQ in the pad pocket, an IQ, with some cam snaps to help spread it out a bit more. And both...
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    I personally at least highly suspect that short...

    I personally at least highly suspect that short UQs are easier to get adjusted right, at least on a gathered hammock. (doesn't seem to make much difference on my bridges, as long as the UQ is not too...
  6. Thread: Cold Front

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    So, were you warm enough at 28F?

    So, were you warm enough at 28F?
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    OK. I got it now! That is about where I was...

    OK. I got it now! That is about where I was figuring on the topo, but neither creek nor falls was named! Thanks!
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    Good to know about the Inferno. Sounds like your...

    Good to know about the Inferno. Sounds like your friend stayed warm also, as you did not report cold butt or back. Chilly toes of course is something other than the UQ.




    OK, thanks, I think I...
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    I sure am tickled that a few of you well...

    I sure am tickled that a few of you well respected folks- people respected here and known to be well experienced in cold and damp and card carrying and long term members of the breathable club- have...
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    Well, how about that! Foot box dry? Apparently...

    Well, how about that! Foot box dry? Apparently the theory is confirmed once again, and it worked at least as well as predicted.

    Condensation on th outer shells and tarp does not have to come all...
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    Your dang right he is! Good thinking on your...

    Your dang right he is! Good thinking on your part! A wet foot box, eh? Interesting! Looking forward to the write up!
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    How do you get to White Creek falls from Borden...

    How do you get to White Creek falls from Borden trail head, or Thompson TH? Not sure where White Creek is.
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    Wow, ran into 2 different HF and group hang...

    Wow, ran into 2 different HF and group hang folks! Sounds like we are taking over Sipsey!

    So, like me, you also have a 30F Inferno? Did you use that, and your friend used the Hammock Gear Econ 20*...
  14. Sipsey Wilderness in AL. Sawtooth Mountains...

    Sipsey Wilderness in AL.

    Sawtooth Mountains in ID.

    And of course the Wind River Mountains in WY:
    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/2/2/9/catching_some_rays_at_clear_lake_thumb.jpg
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    Hey, so you used it afterall? I thought it was...

    Hey, so you used it afterall? I thought it was going to be too warm to us it yet? OK, looking for that thread!
  16. Thanks for the update, Framjam! Glad to hear you...

    Thanks for the update, Framjam! Glad to hear you found a simple, light and easy solution. But I remain perplexed over why some of us have these issues that need a solution, while some of us have not...
  17. There are of course plenty of folks who feel...

    There are of course plenty of folks who feel exactly the same way. But I donít know how many of those folks have actually tried the system enough to give it a fair shake. I myself have been using one...
  18. I just want to make sure I have been clear. About...

    I just want to make sure I have been clear. About how low I have taken the base system: during my early days in a hammock, the HHSS is all I had. If memory serves, right about freezing was about my...
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    Or, here is another fun test I have done a few...

    Or, here is another fun test I have done a few times, whether on VBs or just various types of insulation: assuming safe bail out(but probably won't work if on the trail because you wouldn't want to...
  20. BTW, the one time I was soaked, when I failed to...

    BTW, the one time I was soaked, when I failed to use the space blanket in the 40sF, I also did not even notice untill I went to get up the next morning! So that makes 2 of us! Also, that time it was...
  21. Yep, here I am. There are a few of us that have...

    Yep, here I am. There are a few of us that have used the HHSS with great success all things considered. And a few of us(OneClick, cmc4free (?) and/or Cmoulder, TxAggie and a few others), that use VBs...
  22. Th High Sierra is 4" wider than the ORM, hence...

    Th High Sierra is 4" wider than the ORM, hence maybe better for the restless sleeper, or side sleeper in a tent. Also, the HSS is wearable, can replace or add to a parka while sitting around camp,...
  23. Still there for me.

    Still there for me.
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    Wow, that never occurred to me!

    Wow, that never occurred to me!
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    Ah yes, but naturally that is where the glory of...

    Ah yes, but naturally that is where the glory of VB socks kicks in. On that night inside my HH over cover, since my feet were hot and sweating even at 6F( had wool socks and insulated booties over VB...
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    I seriously doubt it. I doubt that you will...

    I seriously doubt it. I doubt that you will generate enough vapor condensed to water- or if you are too hot, produce enough sweat- to over come the ability of whatever layers you are wearing-...
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    Makes me think of Ed Speer- a vastly experienced...

    Makes me think of Ed Speer- a vastly experienced hanger and back country traveler famous for his remote, solo kayak trips in Alaska. Where he would hang high in the trees to be out of reach of...
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    UQP = Under quilt protector

    UQP = Under quilt protector
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    Did you tell us at what temps you were cold? Are...

    Did you tell us at what temps you were cold? Are you an extremely cold sleeper? ( what is the temp rating of the Wiggy's bag?) Was your head well insulated like it would be inside the hood of a...
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    I just ordered this, in the OP at this link....

    I just ordered this, in the OP at this link. https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/140108-oak-creek-advanced-rainfly-55-on-Amazon , to play with. I am not expecting high quality, but I...
  31. Thanks, BigCro!

    Thanks, BigCro!
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    If some one(like SLD for instance) would make you...

    If some one(like SLD for instance) would make you a custom item, you might want a pillow case design like I described earlier, which came on the original Yeti. Just now I also remembered WB for a...
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    Goof info, TxAggie!

    Goof info, TxAggie!
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    I bet few here will remember this, but the...

    I bet few here will remember this, but the original(ca.2007? 2008?) Yeti(Climashield rather than down), which one warm sleeper here took well below zero more than once, came with(optional?) a...
  35. Not seeing a picture. What type of hammock?

    Not seeing a picture. What type of hammock?
  36. Minus 19F in Big Piney, WY Wed morning, Oct 30th,...

    Minus 19F in Big Piney, WY Wed morning, Oct 30th, 2019!
    https://darksky.net/details/42.5388,-110.1165/2019-10-30/us12/en
  37. Way to go, Bros! This is the earliest I can...

    Way to go, Bros! This is the earliest I can recall folks being able to challenge zero F or below. Y'all were within just a few degrees! Truly amazing for the end of Oct, and without even being way up...
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    About wearing some clothing under the VB....

    About wearing some clothing under the VB. Assuming over heating and sweating can be avoided, I can probably usually get away with it, even if theoretically bad form. Since naturally, it is optimum to...
  39. Thread: RR Convert

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    Hey Jama, I just realized you are in Fruit...

    Hey Jama, I just realized you are in Fruit Heights, UT. I lived in Layton for about a year and in Fruit Heights for about a year from 1985-87. Wasatch Mountain, deep powder at Alta, Snow Bird, etc!...
  40. Gilligan of CO, that looks cold! ...

    Gilligan of CO, that looks cold!


    WhoooooooooooBuddy! And just a few weeks ago it was unbearably hot down south with a fire ban all over!
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    "sharing the warmth". Like a mitten. Interesting...

    "sharing the warmth". Like a mitten. Interesting concept. But you might need something ultra thin to keep the coated nylon off of your skin. That contact wth my bare skin is not the worst sensation,...
  42. Do you have CBS yet? It's minus 10F in Leadville and Craig, CO in Oct!

    I hope you CO folks have your UQs and/or pads ready! Highs in the teens even at the lower elevations! It's not even November yet! These are all time record cold temps for October in CO!
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    record cold moving to gen hammock talk

    moving to gen hammock talk
  44. Thread: RR Convert

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    Thanks, I did not realize that! My AHE designed...

    Thanks, I did not realize that! My AHE designed for WBRR only has biners, but there seems to be some elastic inside the body of the UQ which might provide some cushion.
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    I'm really Looking forward to your reports! It...

    I'm really Looking forward to your reports! It will be interesting to see if you find it worth the effort and the possible clammy feeling. It won't leak. I have never noticed all that much collected...
  46. Thread: RR Convert

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    Welcome to the club within the club, bro! I also...

    Welcome to the club within the club, bro! I also find that is a great hammock! But I'm confused: The Lynx has rubber bands that could break? I thought it connected at a 4 corners with mini biners? I...
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    Well, that will for sure get the job done. And,...

    Well, that will for sure get the job done. And, the price is right. I personally prefer VB clothing. Especially if I can figure out one layer that I can replace with it. For example, since...
  48. Thank you for the info!

    Thank you for the info!
  49. WOW!...

    WOW! .................................................
  50. Thanks, CM! So, tethers at both ends sounds like...

    Thanks, CM! So, tethers at both ends sounds like the solution, and not really much trouble.
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