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    That's a bit of a rabbit hole, and I'll try to...

    That's a bit of a rabbit hole, and I'll try to keep it brief, but I am of the opinion that overstuff doesn't make a 30 quilt into a 25 quilt. Overstuff won't change the maximum loft of the quilt,...
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    My fault, I meant to steer you to the Hudson...

    My fault, I meant to steer you to the Hudson River 20 as the multi function quilt. Still about 7 oz lighter (in size Regular), and actually now $40 cheaper than the Kammock product.
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    Even giving them the benefit of the doubt, this...

    Even giving them the benefit of the doubt, this is missing some of the info I'd want to know when buying a $300 quilt. No mention of fill weight or loft height. 15D fabric is ok, but 750FP down...
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    True, but if price point is more important than...

    True, but if price point is more important than price per foot....
    100' is more than enough for one tarp, even a tarp with 3 tie outs per side and doors. Maybe OP just wants the line to rig one...
  5. rweb82 put up a good list. There are certainly...

    rweb82 put up a good list. There are certainly more, but that will just start to muddy the waters and you'll quickly develop a case of paralysis by analysis.

    If weight consicousness for...
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    Another option ...

    Another option

    https://www.amazon.com/emma-kites-Suspension-Backpacking-Recreational/dp/B06XTL3K7Z
  7. Right, I'm not saying there was anything wrong...

    Right, I'm not saying there was anything wrong with it the way it was, but this is one of those something for nothing propositions, so it seemed worth trying out for a while.
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    I'm testing a simple modification I did to this...

    I'm testing a simple modification I did to this UQ, and made a small write-up of it here.
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  9. Simple suspension mod for Operator Series Habanero

    Taking a cue from the minimalist secondary suspension system on the Jacks R Better Greylock, I did a very simple modification to my Loco Libre 50 Operator Series Habanero UQ. As stated in the...
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    SOLD: Tarp is SOLD to commanderkeen. Thank you!

    Tarp is SOLD to commanderkeen. Thank you!
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    SOLD: Great! PM sent.

    Great! PM sent.
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    SOLD: Awesome. Just to be fair, you did notice the...

    Awesome. Just to be fair, you did notice the asym direction is reverse from "normal," right?
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    SOLD: SLD Simplicity Asym Tarp - Moroccan Blue

    For sale is a Simplicity Asym hammock tarp from Simply Light Designs.

    The tarp is "standard length" which is the right length for an 11' hammock. It is made from Moroccan Blue Xenon 1.1 silpoly. ...
  14. FS: Tarp ties outs and Fleaz are SOLD to...

    Tarp ties outs and Fleaz are SOLD to greyhound352.

    Thanks very much!
  15. FS: Price drop to $30 on the tarp tie-out set.

    Price drop to $30 on the tarp tie-out set.
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    I have about a dozen total quilts in our...

    I have about a dozen total quilts in our collection. I keep each quilt in its own Sterilite 106qt (100L) latching storage bin. My 40 and 50 sets actually don't require separate bins for the UQ and...
  17. FS: LoopAliens are SOLD. Thank you!

    LoopAliens are SOLD. Thank you!
  18. FS: LoopAliens are SPF to Falarny.

    LoopAliens are SPF to Falarny.
  19. FS: Dutchware Fleaz with Zing-It ; Black LoopAlien (Al)

    For sale are a couple more tarp rigging items.

    Item 1) Pair of black anodized aluminum LoopAliens. These are authentic LoopAliens, not knockoffs.

    UPDATE: SOLD for $7.
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  20. SOLD: Items are SOLD. Thank you!

    Items are SOLD. Thank you!
  21. SOLD: Items are SPF to Sh4ggy.

    Items are SPF to Sh4ggy.
  22. SOLD: Dutchware Flyz ; Dutchware Perfect Pouch ; Hangtime Hook

    Listing a few smalls for sale. $10 per item or take all three for $25. Price includes shipping to lower 48 states. PayPal only, please. Thanks for looking!

    Item 1 - Dutchware Perfect Pouch -...
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    Shugs photos in this thread have been discussed...

    Shugs photos in this thread have been discussed in the past. The way he has it set up in the photos looks good, but it does look like the bridge suspension is shorter at the head end than the foot...
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    I've used these together a number of times, but I...

    I've used these together a number of times, but I never measure the stand line lengths. I use a variety of hammocks on the stand and make adjustments for each. By eyeballing, I'd suggest maybe...
  25. FS: Chameleon package is SOLD. Thanks very much!

    Chameleon package is SOLD. Thanks very much!
  26. FS: Chameleon set is SPF to Kreger.

    Chameleon set is SPF to Kreger.
  27. FS: Price drop to $225.

    Price drop to $225.
  28. FS: Complete Chameleon hammock system, S.L. Hexon 1.6

    For sale is a complete Dutchware Chameleon hammock system. This can only be sold as a package and the items will not be split up for individual sale. Included in the package are the items listed...
  29. FS: Greylock 4 is withdrawn. Might re-list later. ...

    Greylock 4 is withdrawn. Might re-list later. Thanks to those who showed interest!
  30. FS: The only tag is the one in this photo, and the...

    The only tag is the one in this photo, and the other side of it is blank. Perhaps dating the quilt is something they used to do, but don't any longer?

    I can tell you it was purchased on October...
  31. FS: Gorilla backpack is SOLD. Thank you! JRB...

    Gorilla backpack is SOLD. Thank you!

    JRB Greylock 4 still available. Will probably withdraw Friday evening if not sold by then.
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    cmoulder is #6 on the goose version of the 10...

    cmoulder is #6 on the goose version of the 10 Most Wanted list. :lol:
  33. Thread: Knots book?

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    A good, free one here too if you want to print...

    A good, free one here too if you want to print it.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/83955-Knot-Booklet
  34. Thread: Knots book?

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    The Animated Knots app for phone/tablet is a good...

    The Animated Knots app for phone/tablet is a good resource.
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    Nothing wrong with wanting a 30. EE, Hammock...

    Nothing wrong with wanting a 30. EE, Hammock Gear, Warbonnet, Loco Libre, Cedar Ridge Outdoors, and UGQ all have them. Some of those carry certain in stock, ready to ship models.
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    I have a few quilts across different temp ranges....

    I have a few quilts across different temp ranges. This one was purposely chosen to be lightweight (in both mass and insulation) and particularly to take up as little packed volume as possible.
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  37. You bet. Then again, if your XLC is the original...

    You bet. Then again, if your XLC is the original style (not the original Blackbird, but the XLC before they updated it circa October 2017), I don't know if it still mixes and matches with the nets...
  38. How Warbonnet set their prices is their own...

    How Warbonnet set their prices is their own business, but there's a fair bit more labor and material that go into the XLC net. It's got fabric that's matched to the hammock, rather than just...
  39. The cool thing is if you ever decide to try, you...

    The cool thing is if you ever decide to try, you only need to buy an Eldorado net for $40. You can reuse the same hammock body.
  40. Your friend is correct. With no net attached,...

    Your friend is correct. With no net attached, either of those hammocks are just symmetical gathered end hammocks with zipper track along the hems.

    And the Eldorado gets plenty of love around here!
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    I only have one TQ that doesn't have a sewn...

    I only have one TQ that doesn't have a sewn footbox. It's a Loco Libre Gear Operator Series 50 Ghost Pepper. I had it made using RipstopByTheRoll Membrane 7 (M7) fabric for both shells and it has...
  42. FS: I have it set up right now in my "work from home...

    I have it set up right now in my "work from home office."

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/img_20200806_122558.jpg
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  43. FS: Price drop on the JRB Greylock 4 to $160.

    Price drop on the JRB Greylock 4 to $160.
  44. FS: GG Gorilla is SPF to mudsocks. PM sent. Thank you!

    GG Gorilla is SPF to mudsocks. PM sent. Thank you!
  45. FS: Jacks R Better Greylock 4 UQ ; Gossamer Gear Gorilla 40L pack

    Continuing my clearout of some extra gear...

    Jacks R Better Greylock 4 underquilt This is a or torso-length, 4-season underquilt that JRB say is conservatively rated to 0 F (-17 C). The...
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    FS: Going to withdraw the JRB GL4, and repost in new...

    Going to withdraw the JRB GL4, and repost in new thread.
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    FS: HG Burrow and LLG Carolina Reaper are SOLD. ...

    HG Burrow and LLG Carolina Reaper are SOLD. Thanks very much!
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    FS: HG Burrow and LLG Carolina Reaper are SPF to Tree...

    HG Burrow and LLG Carolina Reaper are SPF to Tree Rhino.
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    FS: Some more pics of the -20 Carolina Reaper. ...

    Some more pics of the -20 Carolina Reaper.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/8/1/0/1/carlonia_reaper_minus_20_3.jpg
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    FS: HG, LLG, JRB winter quilts!

    *UPDATE - LLG Carolina Reaper and HG Burrow are SOLD*

    I am listing my 3 warmest hammock quilts for sale. Each is a great piece of gear and has served me well for a few seasons of cold Midwestern...
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