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    Welcome to HF! I assume the Laurel Highlands...

    Welcome to HF!

    I assume the Laurel Highlands listed in your post is the one in western PA. If so, it is quite hammock friendly, easily accommodating a family of 4 at all the campsites. I've found...
  2. Going back to the original goal — tarp tensioning...

    Going back to the original goal — tarp tensioning system, no hardware, single handed — reminds me that you can also accomplish all this with a simple Midshipman's Hitch (slipped version) as long as...
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    Without beating it to death on the weight topic,...

    Without beating it to death on the weight topic, I will add that I (and perhaps you) got into hammocks after having a decent amount of experience with UL ground setups, including tents, tarps, bivys...
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    Good reports in this thread...

    Good reports in this thread for Thermocell.

    Picaridin doesn't work for me so I use Deet (Deep Woods Off or similar). I have friends who tested some Picaridin on a trip in the Adirondacks a couple...
  5. That's a good point... I also prefer right side...

    That's a good point... I also prefer right side entry (and therefore zipper right for integrated net)

    Some really screwed up bass ackwards people around here, LOL! :)
  6. One thing to keep in mind about Dariens is that...

    One thing to keep in mind about Dariens is that they are asym so you need to know and specify your preference. And it's nigh impossible to know unless you've "test-driven" a good hammock.

    The very...
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    I'd get the Dutch Half Zip in Hexon 1.0, and...

    I'd get the Dutch Half Zip in Hexon 1.0, and maybe request a 10 footer if they can swing it. I kinda doubt it, but I've never asked.

    I prefer integrated nets just for simplicity and less hassle......
  8. Shug's video on adjusting the Incubator was very...

    Shug's video on adjusting the Incubator was very helpful for me when I was just starting out. And of course it generally applies to all UQs. Pay special attention to the part about "skewing" the...
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    This! ^^^^ Far more bulk and weight come from...

    This! ^^^^

    Far more bulk and weight come from thicker shell material than from a lower FP down.

    For example, 10D shell (inside and out) and 800fp is much preferred over 20D shell and 950fp. For...
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    Excellent suggestions from rweb82 — very...

    Excellent suggestions from rweb82 — very respectable weights and relatively low cost. Also, I luv-luv-luv my DH Dariens but the wait times are now very long unless you know for sure that your lay...
  11. If I were using silnylon I'd probably use bungee...

    If I were using silnylon I'd probably use bungee cords because they can stretch significantly but otherwise no.

    I get the impression that some people think DCF is super delicate, but I treat mine...
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    LOL that's one heckuva quilt set!

    LOL that's one heckuva quilt set!
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    Great trip! It's hard to get away from the...

    Great trip!

    It's hard to get away from the sounds of civilization... about 2 weeks ago I was in the Catskills, camping between Cornell and Slide Mountains, and it was the first time in ages that I...
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    I've used #30 florist wire, and one piece has...

    I've used #30 florist wire, and one piece has lasted a long time.

    I concur with jeff-oh that it's not ideal for production, and if I were going to have a side biz doing this I would acquire some...
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    I agree with this. Normally I keep the CRL...

    I agree with this.

    Normally I keep the CRL attached to the tarp but if this was a regular problem I would somehow make the CRL detachable from the tarp.

    Nothing wrong with the way you describe...
  16. What do you mean by "tensioners"? Elastic...

    What do you mean by "tensioners"? Elastic bungee/shock cord?

    If so, No, I don't use them on mine. Been in some fairly stiff breezes quite a few times with no issues.

    I do use a CRL with the...
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    Recent discussion HERE...

    Recent discussion HERE.
  18. This Backpacker magazine article...

    This Backpacker magazine article provides a pretty good overview of the topic.

    A couple of good books about UL philosophy and techniques/tips are Don Ladigin's Lighten Up! and Mike Clelland's...
  19. I agree, but so many times we've seen that a...

    I agree, but so many times we've seen that a comprehensive discussion quickly and naturally veers away from hammocks/quilts/tarps to other gear.

    There's just so much more to the topic than...
  20. Hi SwingingBear and welcome to HF from a neighbor...

    Hi SwingingBear and welcome to HF from a neighbor in Westchester county! :)

    I don't know if you're a donating member yet, but unfortunately a discussion about reducing pack volume/weight is beyond...
  21. Another CRL advantage: If you use a trekking pole...

    Another CRL advantage: If you use a trekking pole (or other dedicated pole) as an external spreader bar it keeps the pole from rubbing the tarp. Abrasion from friction is DCF's worst enemy.
    ...
  22. There are people who use the split ridge lines...

    There are people who use the split ridge lines and one-piece, which is what I use. Reduces tension on the tarp pull-outs and is very easy to center.

    Attach the tarp to the ridge line with Prusik...
  23. I use 3/32" (2.5mm) bungee. ...

    I use 3/32" (2.5mm) bungee.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/7/4/1/1/4/hex_standard_trek_pole_mod_small.jpg
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    I've been using it (hitch configuration) for well...

    I've been using it (hitch configuration) for well over a year for my hammock suspension—Kevlar strap tied to Amsteel CL—and it is rock solid.

    Many times I use the slipped knot configuration for...
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    Sticky: I had a Campmor brand down bag that was over 30...

    I had a Campmor brand down bag that was over 30 yrs old that I donated to my friend's BSA troop a few years ago. I think it was 650fp which back then was pretty good. Washed it in the tub with some...
  26. Beautiful country, and a mix of weird and nice...

    Beautiful country, and a mix of weird and nice people.

    Sometimes nice to be able to do a good stealth camp well away from the shelters. I've done that a few times over the years after getting...
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    Poll: When backpacking I put the Kevlar straps in with...

    When backpacking I put the Kevlar straps in with the hammock even if damp. Never hurt anything, and if the hammock gets a little damp it dries out very quickly when deployed the same...
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    Hmm... I didn't think to try that.

    Hmm... I didn't think to try that.
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    I have quilt hooks on mine but I stopped using...

    I have quilt hooks on mine but I stopped using them because they appear to be putting strain on the netting. I really don't miss them at all and am thinking about cutting them off altogether.
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    I find the UQ easy to adjust on the non-zip side...

    I find the UQ easy to adjust on the non-zip side of the Darien.

    Easy enough to feel the shock cord through the material and lift it up if necessary.
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    The material in both weights is calendared and...

    The material in both weights is calendared and downproof rating is 5, so wind resistance should be excellent.

    More important IMO than the weight difference is the compressibility, and there is a...
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    If it's primarily for space savings, a TQ with a...

    If it's primarily for space savings, a TQ with a thin shell and 850fp down is the best option. I watched this YT review (promo) and the ENO TQ looks (fast forward to 2:21) quite bulky to me. I'm...
  33. As described, I'm all but certain that a Becket...

    As described, I'm all but certain that a Becket hitch would not hold without some extra wraps or stopper knot somewhere. Neither would my beloved slipped Lapp hitch.

    J-bend would definitely...
  34. Good to know!

    Good to know!
  35. That's a good point... however I have a couple of...

    That's a good point... however I have a couple of plain hammocks (not DH) in HyperD 1.6 and that would work for me as well.

    Admittedly, I am not nearly as sensitive to differences in materials as...
  36. The difference will be like night and day. :) ...

    The difference will be like night and day. :)

    I'm 5'9" and I have DH Dariens (in Robic 1.7 and 1.2) that are 10' length, 64" width and they are my favorite hammocks. However, people are all over...
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    Will all of your gear fit into a 35 or 45 liter...

    Will all of your gear fit into a 35 or 45 liter pack? As a general rule, 35 liters is adequate for a fairly well honed ultralight kit and 45 liters for cooler weather (and thus more clothing, bulkier...
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    Here's my HG camo DCF hex. There might be...

    Here's my HG camo DCF hex.

    There might be other camo patterns produced by the Dyneema corp but this is the only one I've seen.
    ...
  39. Thread: 11x6 hex tarp

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    Can't hurt to try... more of a "just in case"...

    Can't hurt to try... more of a "just in case" tarp like my little SLD asym.
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    Lyme disease. ;)

    Lyme disease.

    ;)
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    LOL that's going to be some crazy light setup......

    LOL that's going to be some crazy light setup... combined with a DCF hex tarp a total weight barely over 2 lb. :laugh:
  42. If you're using it for car camping or other...

    If you're using it for car camping or other situations where weight and volume don't matter at all, probably not a huge risk.

    For any other usage (backpacking, bikepacking, moto touring etc) where...
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    Looks good! What do you do on the other end?

    Looks good! What do you do on the other end?
  44. Thread: TARPS

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    I concur with the 11' recommendations thus far,...

    I concur with the 11' recommendations thus far, but other options such as width and doors and volume and intended use also come into play.

    For instance, if you're a car camper and aren't concerned...
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    Mule tape works but it snags on stuff and gets...

    Mule tape works but it snags on stuff and gets really ratty looking in short order. Any slippage can quickly shred it.
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    Kevlar or poly webbing or Dutch poly/spider all...

    Kevlar or poly webbing or Dutch poly/spider all hold well with basic Becket. With UHMWPE you might have to throw in an extra wrap or tie a stopper knot to prevent slippage. Also helps enormously to...
  47. ENO marketing in this instance seems (I don't...

    ENO marketing in this instance seems (I don't know 'cause I didn't see it) to play into the whole trend toward narcissistic "Instagram moments" that have led to deaths after falls from various...
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    Maybe Kam snaps.

    Maybe Kam snaps.
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    Probably best bet is to post a WTB here with...

    Probably best bet is to post a WTB here with specs. What temp rating? What length?
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    Yep, with my current total...

    Yep, with my current total hammock/shelter/insulation (TQ+UQ) weights in the 40oz range it's going to take something significantly lighter to convince me to take the leap.
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