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  1. I'm sure having your head outside the sock would...

    I'm sure having your head outside the sock would reduce condensation immensely. However, I think you're gonna need some way to keep your head warm and dry - maybe some combination of Shug's frost bib...
  2. Well, unless you're really short, I can't see a...

    Well, unless you're really short, I can't see a 0* Phoenix as a viable quilt. I can't take my 20* Phoenix below 30* F, and I would expect I couldn't take a 0* Phoenix below 30* either. They say you...
  3. Dutch doesn't make socks with waterproof...

    Dutch doesn't make socks with waterproof material. His stuff is mostly Argon 90, which has a DWR coating but is breathable. Your quilts need to breathe; otherwise, you'll get condensation in your...
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    I don't expect this company to be around long...

    I don't expect this company to be around long with those prices.
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    It really doesn't matter if you're using 8 ft....

    It really doesn't matter if you're using 8 ft. guylines (which I use) because you can just shorten them up if you want to and leave the excess cord laying on the ground (or tie it up in a neat...
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    Sticky: 2QZQ stopped making silnylon UQPs years ago - you...

    2QZQ stopped making silnylon UQPs years ago - you probably have the regular breathable version. Nowadays, Dutch makes them out of Argon 90.
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    I would suggest an air hammock - a hammock made...

    I would suggest an air hammock - a hammock made of air. No way a knife can penetrate air.
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    Pads are uncomfortable, and hard to keep under...

    Pads are uncomfortable, and hard to keep under you, even in a double layer. I wouldn't even consider a pad if I could afford a UQ.

    Of course, I started with a pad, but have thankfully forgotten...
  9. I have the HG Phoenix 40* and 20* 3/4 quilts....

    I have the HG Phoenix 40* and 20* 3/4 quilts. After trying temps as low as 13* F with the Phoenix 20*, I decided that it didn't really work for temps below 30* F. A CCF pad in the footbox didn't do...
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    Quilts need to be breathable, so don't use...

    Quilts need to be breathable, so don't use waterproof fabrics. You also don't want a waterproof UQP. Check out the cottage vendors - they don't sell waterproof UQPs. Many years ago, 2QZQ sold a...
  11. One night at a group hang, a friend of mine was...

    One night at a group hang, a friend of mine was so proud that he had gotten himself a 0* UQ. He couldn't wait to try it.

    About four in the morning I woke up to take a leak, and I saw my friend...
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    Looks like a Dutch Chameleon to me. I'm a little...

    Looks like a Dutch Chameleon to me. I'm a little puzzled by the weight, though. Seems pretty heavy.
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    The perfect 2.6 lb. hammock to go with those...

    The perfect 2.6 lb. hammock to go with those Snugpak quilts!:lol:
  14. Personally, I wouldn't experiment with an...

    Personally, I wouldn't experiment with an established design by a cottage vendor. If Warbonnet wanted to sell a hammock with an integrated bugnet and an adjustable ridgeline, it would be on the...
  15. Poly canvas? Nah, that's not a thing. Canvas is...

    Poly canvas? Nah, that's not a thing. Canvas is made from hemp, flax or cotton, not polyester.

    I don't think there is any tarp that can hold up against sunshine 365 days a year. If that's what you...
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    How can you lose them? They're usually spliced.

    How can you lose them? They're usually spliced.
  17. I just tie a marlin spike hitch to the stake,...

    I just tie a marlin spike hitch to the stake, that's the simplest knot I know. The guylines are permanently larksheaded to the tarp.

    I can't imagine using hardware on my guylines.
  18. I'll file this under: not gonna happen.

    I'll file this under: not gonna happen.
  19. If you're not doing heavy UV exposure, I would...

    If you're not doing heavy UV exposure, I would expect that tarp to last a lifetime. Our cottage vendors make quality stuff.
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    You're only 12 votes shy - even if you were...

    You're only 12 votes shy - even if you were conservative, you could do one post a day and be selling in 12 days. I don't think the mods would be concerned with that. I think the mods are more...
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    Well I certainly don't remember it being cheap -...

    Well I certainly don't remember it being cheap - I think it was between $45 and $60 one way. Unfortunately, the shuttle just made the most sense compared to other plans.

    I've done a lot of...
  22. Bears at a group hang? First time I've heard of...

    Bears at a group hang? First time I've heard of that. We had a couple of raccoons at a group hang, but they can't sever your jugular.

    Glad everyone had a good time!
  23. My krinkle-taffeta tablecloth hammocks are...

    My krinkle-taffeta tablecloth hammocks are polyester, which have minimal stretch anywhere. I'm surprised you have such issues with a polyester hammock.
  24. A sectional hammock? Like an ENO? Those seams...

    A sectional hammock? Like an ENO? Those seams running down the length of the hammock are irritating. And the additional points of failure created by all those seams on those sections? Priceless.
  25. All I can say is that neoprene and "thick"...

    All I can say is that neoprene and "thick" spandex hammocks haven't ever been considered by anyone, to my knowledge, so you're on your own. Good luck!
  26. A neoprene hammock? That's not gonna breathe very...

    A neoprene hammock? That's not gonna breathe very well, and I doubt "thick" spandex will be much better. Neither one would be sufficiently lightweight for backpacking.
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    You won't find much on Hammockforums about DCF...

    You won't find much on Hammockforums about DCF hammocks. A few people tried it and converted them to stuff sacks.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/88497-Cuben-fiber-hammock
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    I don't remember the shuttle as being all that...

    I don't remember the shuttle as being all that horrible (other than the cost). It's about 45 minutes, as I recall. Sometimes shuttles make sense, and in this case, I think it does.

    We had a nice...
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    NY State is pretty relaxed - just go on the state...

    NY State is pretty relaxed - just go on the state website to find the campsites. First come, first served so don't plan on showing up on a Friday with any hope of finding a campsite.
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    As Shug said, you can vent your UQ when...

    As Shug said, you can vent your UQ when necessary. My first quilt set was an HG 20* Phoenix and Burrow. I used it year-round for about three years. I'm just not a hot sleeper and venting is easy....
  31. When UQPs became popular six or eight years ago,...

    When UQPs became popular six or eight years ago, I didn't pay one whit of attention to them because it's just not an idea that set well with me.

    What do you do if your tarp is not adequate? The...
  32. I don't use shock cord, especially on my DCF...

    I don't use shock cord, especially on my DCF tarp, which doesn't stretch. I don't even use shock cord on my silnylon tarp (which does stretch when it gets wet). Once the silnylon tarp is wet, I just...
  33. Not sure I understand the problem. You stake out...

    Not sure I understand the problem. You stake out your tarp using the four main tarp tie-outs. Then, you have the tarp doors dangling, and you just cross them over and stake them out to close the...
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    Nothing quite as funny as this: ...

    Nothing quite as funny as this:

    https://chillgorilla.com

    "Get Ready... Something Really Cool Is Coming Soon"

    Coming when? A year? Two years? Three years?
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    Unfortunately, it's hot as heck right now - not a...

    Unfortunately, it's hot as heck right now - not a lot of people going out during this kind of weather. I keep trying to get motivated to go out, but I'm probably waiting till late September.
  36. Welcome from the Jersey Shore.

    Welcome from the Jersey Shore.
  37. I highly doubt that quilt will breathe. You seem...

    I highly doubt that quilt will breathe. You seem to be making the assumption that a quilt only breathes from the top, but I don't think that's the case. Nobody sells a UQP made of waterproof...
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    All depends on how much old growth forest is in...

    All depends on how much old growth forest is in Hawaii. Here on the East Coast, they clear-cut every tree from Florida to Maine around the turn of the century (20th), so 4 ft. huggers work fine.
  39. I don't think the author, kitsapcowboy, will be...

    I don't think the author, kitsapcowboy, will be answering you. He disappeared a couple of years ago.
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    I tried shock cord once, and the shock cord...

    I tried shock cord once, and the shock cord turned the stake into a projectile. It flew about 20 feet away and took me 20 minutes to find. After that, no more shock cord.
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    It's darn near impossible to "study" lightning...

    It's darn near impossible to "study" lightning because it is so random. There just aren't any studies on lightning; just anecdotal best guesses.
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    I think you're mistaken about breaking strength...

    I think you're mistaken about breaking strength of 1.75 mm Zing-it or even 2.2 mm Zing-It. The 2.2 mm is rated at 650 lbs., while the 1.75 mm is 500 lbs.
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    I don't think cottage vendors will be listening....

    I don't think cottage vendors will be listening. The market decided those products weren't viable, for whatever reason. Now you want cottage vendors to start selling a non-viable product? Sounds like...
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    Can't think of anything noteworthy.

    Can't think of anything noteworthy.
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    There is indeed a small, but vocal, group of...

    There is indeed a small, but vocal, group of cheerleaders for the becket hitch. Personally, I'm not messing with a knot based solution for hammock suspension. The less knots, the better, for me.
  46. I've taken my backpack through a river about five...

    I've taken my backpack through a river about five different times and my down quilts have never gotten wet. I have them in cuben fiber stuff sacks inside a garbage bag.
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    Well, it's not like you're going to kill her from...

    Well, it's not like you're going to kill her from trying this. However, if you have little in the form of DIY skills, that makes it difficult. If she is in great pain, I doubt the hammock will make...
  48. Sounds like a solid setup, though I'm not much of...

    Sounds like a solid setup, though I'm not much of a fan of ligtweight fabrics like 1.2 Mountain. I tried those lighter fabrics but settled on 1.6 ounce HyperD (just not into disposable hammocks).
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    Just saw an article in NY Post that said he was...

    Just saw an article in NY Post that said he was hanging from a spruce tree that fell on him.

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/01/new-hampshire-man-dies-in-freak-hammock-accident-while-on-hike/

    A...
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    Welcome from the Jersey Shore! If we ever get...

    Welcome from the Jersey Shore! If we ever get over this Covid-19 thing, you'll have to come join us in the NJ Pine Barrens.
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