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Apologies for a mild hijack of the 12 footer discussion.

Well as a quick update, I JUST ordered an 11ft Wide from Dutch (in Dark Olive) with the Beetle Buckle suspension. I went Netless rather than Chameleon however. I liked the entry price to test the...

Thank you. I'm aware that the math works out, but I'd prefer to maintain around a foot of extra space at each end if possible. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the under quilt issue though. ...

Thank you for the quick comparison. I'm 6'3" and wondering if there's more comfort out there somewhere than my WB Eldorado is providing. I have an 11ft Superfly, so I'm mostly considering a 11ft...

I just found this thread and link. I really appreciate how clear and concisely the information is presented. Thank you very much.