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    Quick whoopie sling length question

    I find that my whoopie slings are often too long, would it be reasonable to have someone make a sling that has the bury almost immediately beyond the fixed end? Is there some reason this is not typically done? Thank you for your input!

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    i'll take a stab at this

    you typically have a bury for your fixed end eye, the one i use is a locked brummel, so the adjustment cord end needs to be below that, i tend to use a longer bury than recommended, just to be sure, so my adjustment end can only get to about within 8-10 inches of the fixed eye, but that is where it is exiting the constrictor

    so when they are as short as they can be adjusted mine tend to be in the 16" range, do you need shorter than that?

    not sure it this helps or is what you are specifically asking about tho

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    Yes! that is exactly what I am asking about. The ones I currently have are about 2.5 feet long when at the smallest, and it is very frustrating sometimes. Ultimately I end up pulling the fixed-eye up to match up with the adjustable end to reduce length. That is not convenient at all, though, especially when it slips into the channel in the field...

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    this is a common complaint when attempting to hang shorter spans.

    rather than compromise any levels of safety by reducing bury lengths...
    i've gone to amsteel loops *chainlinks* on the ends of my hammock.
    the whoopies are then attached to those via dutch biner, or more recently, i've built the whoopie directly into the chainlink.

    if i encounter a short span, i bipass the whoopie all together, and hook up to the marlin spike using only the chainlink. essentially i'm able to hang directly from the ends of my hammock, as determined by the overall length of the ridgeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rip waverly View Post
    this is a common complaint when attempting to hang shorter spans.

    rather than compromise any levels of safety by reducing bury lengths...
    i've gone to amsteel loops *chainlinks* on the ends of my hammock.
    the whoopies are then attached to those via dutch biner, or more recently, i've built the whoopie directly into the chainlink.

    if i encounter a short span, i bipass the whoopie all together, and hook up to the marlin spike using only the chainlink. essentially i'm able to hang directly from the ends of my hammock, as determined by the overall length of the ridgeline.

    YMMV
    I do the same in the event of short distances between trees.

    If you never plan on setting up without a tarp then shortening your suspension is not as crucial because you need the extra length to allow for proper tarp coverage. You could redo the whoopies to have a shorter minimum length. You could probably go as short as about 17 inches. 9 inches for the adjustable bury, 5 inches for the fixed eye bury, 2 inches for the fixed eye and an inch for the adjustable loop. I've made and used whoopies with these lengths and even shorter before. There are risks if you don't follow manufacturers recommended bury lengths but so far I've not had any whoopie failures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rip waverly View Post
    this is a common complaint when attempting to hang shorter spans.

    rather than compromise any levels of safety by reducing bury lengths...
    i've gone to amsteel loops *chainlinks* on the ends of my hammock.
    +1

    This is my method as well. A chain link, or rope loop, is fixed in the channel of my hammock via a Lark's head knot. More and more often I'm finding that my site selection and strap length allows me to bypass the Whooopie more times than not; however, it is nice to have the Whoopies when necessary.

    This is a method I describe in my book.

    I also have minimal buries and short Whoopies, as over time, I've found what length works for the areas I frequent. I make my own Whoopies and my eye splices are small. I've seen some Whoopies with a 4-6 in. (10-15 cm.) eye and an 8 in. (20 cm.) bury. My eye loop is about 1.5 in. (4 cm.) and 4 in. (10 cm.) tapered bury. For me, the eye need only be large enough to tie a Lark's head knot, and the hole really only needs to be big enough to thread the Whoopie back through itself, so small is fine. The bury does need to be sufficient to hold under weight, so be careful with minimal buries.

    Carrying a few chain links is hardly a weight penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rip waverly View Post
    this is a common complaint when attempting to hang shorter spans.

    rather than compromise any levels of safety by reducing bury lengths...
    i've gone to amsteel loops *chainlinks* on the ends of my hammock.
    the whoopies are then attached to those via dutch biner, or more recently, i've built the whoopie directly into the chainlink.

    if i encounter a short span, i bipass the whoopie all together, and hook up to the marlin spike using only the chainlink. essentially i'm able to hang directly from the ends of my hammock, as determined by the overall length of the ridgeline.

    YMMV
    This is ingenious. I have been thinking about using chainlinks on the end of my hammock but I was worried it would be annoyingly long.

    Thanks!

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    i have never done it,but i remember reading this idea on here.instead of hooking the whoopie to your marlin spike you go around it,then back towards the middle were you attach to your other whoppie useing a nacra,carabiner,stick,one of your whoopies is openable ect.you could also skip the marlin spike and just wrap your webbing around tree a few times and slide the whoopie between tree and web as shown on left.you should be able to have the trees almost touching each side of the hammock with this method.

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    You could always wrap the whoopie around the end of the hammock a few times to shorten it. Do several wraps before the lark's head, which will obviously no longer really be a lark's head, but I'm not sure what it would be.

    This way you could have the free end exiting the adjustable bury only an inch from the hammock end. Your shortest length would then be only 9" or 10".

    Of course, I've got a Hennessy, so I am forced to do this anyway, but I can't really see why it wouldn't work on any gathered end.

    Has anyone tried this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bindibadgi View Post
    You could always wrap the whoopie around the end of the hammock a few times to shorten it. Do several wraps before the lark's head, which will obviously no longer really be a lark's head, but I'm not sure what it would be.

    This way you could have the free end exiting the adjustable bury only an inch from the hammock end. Your shortest length would then be only 9" or 10".

    Of course, I've got a Hennessy, so I am forced to do this anyway, but I can't really see why it wouldn't work on any gathered end.

    Has anyone tried this?
    So, here is my attempt at doing this. Anyone have objections to this method?
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