I'm curious, for those of you that use 3/4 and 2/3 length under quilts for winter (0 degree quilts) what do you use to insulate your feet/lower legs and how much insulation do your feet/lower legs require?
I'm curious, for those of you that use 3/4 and 2/3 length under quilts for winter (0 degree quilts) what do you use to insulate your feet/lower legs and how much insulation do your feet/lower legs require?
I use a full length incubator for 0F weather, but use my 20F phoenix the rest of the time. And down to 20F my thermarest sit pad easily does the job, I would think it could easily go to 0F or below. I believe Shug also uses a thermarest sit pad if i recall correctly from his videos.
I use either a thermarest sit pad or a therma rest z light pad a four section piece so if its really cold I can double it over if necessary. This has kept me warm down to the single digits.
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I prefer a quilt that goes from my feet to my shoulders. I'll either use a down camping pillow or my down jacket and extra clothes for my head. I only use a pillow if I'm camping with my truck near-by. Backpacking it's whatever I have left over that I'm not wearing.Originally Posted by catalyst
My feet tend to be cold and if I can't get them warm, I do not sleep!!! I'm a cold sleeper, meaning I tend to need more insulation to stay warm. I've found that I'm more comfortable with an under quilt that goes under my feet area. I tried shorter quilts and just could not get warm. My quilt now is a "0" degree and I've camped down to 17 (rainy sleet) conditions and was toasty. That is about a low as I can go though with my 0 degree quilt and still be warm. On my feet will be a thick pair of smartwool socks that I keep just for sleeping in.
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I got some info on this video on the subject in question....starts at about 10 minutes into the video.
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I've used a 1/4" gossamer gear pad in the teens with zero issues. lower than that I doubled up the gossamer gear 1/4" pad but I wonder if my feet would still be ok in the single digits without doubling the pad. That is one of the tests I will be doing at the NJ winter hang. If I'm wrong I can bail for more pads to put under my feet.
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Beginning around 3:30 here is one approach to controlling the foot-pad, so it provides the insulation to the feet and lower legs that would be lost if the foot-pad floats to the top. Experienced users might suggest other approaches that have worked for them. N
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG-gC...yer_detailpage
I use partial length underquilts darn near exclusively and I rarely carry a pad. Since my pack is essentially empty once I've got camp setup, I just toss it in the hammock under my calves and feet. Works down to about zero. When I think temps may dip below that, I do carry a pad (GG Thinlight) to set on top of the backpack just for added insulation.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I ask because I'm considering making either a 3/4 or full length winter UQ. I use a 3/4 for 3 season backpacking, but I was thinking that if for winter I needed to add a substantial amount of pads to cover my feet, it may be just as lightweight and more comfortable if I just use a full length UQ. Using the pack is an interesting idea because you're not adding any weight there.
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