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    Quote Originally Posted by islander View Post
    Sharp looking hammock, UQ & Tarp setup!
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    Great looking UQ! I will be making two down UQs in the near future... for some reason I have to make two of everything!? Actually its awesome having my wife interested and hanging with me!

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    Guessing from the pictures you provided, it appears the baffles are not sewed at the outer (loft area) portions. Is this correct??
    Stated another way: The baffles are sewed lengthwise, to the top and bottom covers, but not to the loft portion of the quilt.


    Or: side to side but not up and down.
    Is that clear??
    grinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder View Post
    Madd7's

    Guessing from the pictures you provided, it appears the baffles are not sewed at the outer (loft area) portions. Is this correct??
    Stated another way: The baffles are sewed lengthwise, to the top and bottom covers, but not to the loft portion of the quilt.


    Or: side to side but not up and down.
    Is that clear??
    Clear as mud! Just kidding.
    The baffles run from head to toe .... how's that?

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    How do you go about tapering the ends of the UQ, how much material did you cut off of each end to make it move inward at the head and foot end? And what is the difference between making an UQ a no sewn through baffel as opposed to a sewn through baffel. I know no sewn through is better but what is the difference when sewing it? Ive been examining my Crows Nest and I know their not sewn through but what connects it? I think that the baffel chambers are made using a strip of no see um attached to the top shell and bottom shell and then that area is simply filled with down? Or do you have to make a no see um mesh tube to put the down in then insert tube in empty cylinder?
    HOpe that makes sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by lazy river road View Post
    I know no sewn through is better but what is the difference when sewing it? Ive been examining my Crows Nest and I know their not sewn through but what connects it?
    You got it - it's strips of NoSeeUm sewn to the bottom layer and the top layer that create the channels (there are other ways to accomplish this, but that's the industry standard).

    What this does is retain the loft throughout the quilt. Sewn thru construction has points of zero loft (at the sew line) where the top layer is sewn directly to the bottom layer. Those points of zero loft can give you cold spots.

    Sewn-Thru can be a fine construction style for a summer quilt though, as that tiny bit of extra heat loss can be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazy river road View Post
    How do you go about tapering the ends of the UQ, how much material did you cut off of each end to make it move inward at the head and foot end? And what is the difference between making an UQ a no sewn through baffel as opposed to a sewn through baffel. I know no sewn through is better but what is the difference when sewing it? Ive been examining my Crows Nest and I know their not sewn through but what connects it? I think that the baffel chambers are made using a strip of no see um attached to the top shell and bottom shell and then that area is simply filled with down? Or do you have to make a no see um mesh tube to put the down in then insert tube in empty cylinder?
    HOpe that makes sense
    I don't cut off any material. What I did was fold and sew a little triangle in the end of each chamber. Only in the part that would be "standing up" at the head & foot ends. The width of the folded or pinched fabric is equal to the difference in the chamber widths of the top and bottom shells, in this case, 3/4" in each chamber. Then I sewed and extra folded triangle in the outer baffles to account for the baffle height, in this case 2".

    My quilt is not sewn thru, it has baffles made from netting. A sewn thru quilt does not have any baffles at all; the top shell is sewn directly to the bottom shell at intervals.

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    madd

    I forgot about the orientation of the baffles.

    I'm asking about the sewing detail at the end of the baffle, where the larger piece folds over to the smaller inner. It would appear the end of the baffle isn't sewn
    grinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    I don't cut off any material. What I did was fold and sew a little triangle in the end of each chamber. Only in the part that would be "standing up" at the head & foot ends. The width of the folded or pinched fabric is equal to the difference in the chamber widths of the top and bottom shells, in this case, 3/4" in each chamber. Then I sewed and extra folded triangle in the outer baffles to account for the baffle height, in this case 2".

    My quilt is not sewn thru, it has baffles made from netting. A sewn thru quilt does not have any baffles at all; the top shell is sewn directly to the bottom shell at intervals.
    Scott thanks for the baffel explanation I totally get it as well asd some great tips from storm crow. And mad777 I get the pinched ends do u close occ the baffels seperatly then the outer shell or is it all one piece. Thanks for all the help I'm slowly getting it
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    Okay Madd,

    I've poured over you write up and have reduced my questions quite a bit.

    By analyzing your dimensions I can see your baffle ends are sewn shut.

    I understand the darts (that's what seamstresses call them) to get rid of the outer panel's extra baffle width.
    When you sewed the baffle ends seam,( across the top and bottom) It looks like there would be a triangle of baffle material (noseeum netting) that is extra because of the difference between top and bottom panel length.
    Did you trim it or what??

    Thanks for your patience.
    grinder

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