Tensahedron Stand

**GadgetUK437** · 10-20-2017, 10:37

Originally Posted by rais'n hammock

I see the angles you note of the RL to the poles being 26° and 37°. If these were of the RL to the plane the made by the 2 end poles I would be a little nervous about the 37° angle.

I was taking measurements from a 3d image, for ballpark measurements. You have to take account for perspective. The true angle will be the suspension angle of your hammock.

**knightshade** · 10-20-2017, 10:41

I was thinking about the tarp. and an old thread that I read of Gadet's....
He had a unified suspension that he was playing with that had both the ridgeline, and a continous tarp line above it....
Wondering how that might work here...

**Karla "with a k"** · 10-20-2017, 10:51

Oh, I totally love the name flytrap, but "Venus" for short. As in Venus fly trap.

Then I would have made a logo with planet Venus in the background with the Venus hammock stand outline over it.

**jellyfish** · 10-20-2017, 10:56

I really want to scrap all my plans for the day and noodle with this concept.

**bobskinner** · 10-20-2017, 11:06

As long as you make video, I say scrap those plans and noodle away Jellyfish!

**FuzzyWereBeast** · 10-20-2017, 11:07

Originally Posted by jellyfish

I really want to scrap all my plans for the day and noodle with this concept.

Agreed. The only issue is that the hammocks are @ home and I'm not.

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**MAD777** · 10-20-2017, 12:35

I too and loving the name, venus fly trap. Let's remember that a tarp would only be necessary for desert hikers. For lounging in a hammock, I always set it up in the shade anyway, even if it is melted on a stand . And indoor use certainly doesn't need the tarp.

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**knightshade** · 10-20-2017, 12:41

Originally Posted by MAD777

I too and loving the name, venus fly trap. Let's remember that a tarp would only be necessary for desert hikers. For lounging in a hammock, I always set it up in the shade anyway, even if it is melted on a stand . And indoor use certainly doesn't need the tarp.

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I don't know about you, but I mostly use my tarp for rain cover...

**Latherdome** · 10-20-2017, 12:52

Originally Posted by MAD777

I too and loving the name, venus fly trap. Let's remember that a tarp would only be necessary for desert hikers.

Rain, sun, snow, wind, dew. Even just privacy!

Flytrap would be the ultralight name. Mousetrap the middleweight. Beartrap the HD. Mars Flytrap the manbro variant, in manly man colorway (camo with red anodized bling?). Uranus the uni... ok over a line.

**CaptainGravity** · 10-20-2017, 13:04

Originally Posted by Latherdome

...Poles of my first working prototype are 88" long btw for 10' hammock (4x 22")....

Did some math, and I hope to attempt this weekend with:
88" pole length (actually 8'=96" wood tree stakes, but since I plan to lash together, I need to subtract a few inches from each end. 2" diameter FYI)
118" hammock (so practically 10')

Playing with the online Ultimate Hang calculator, the following combination results in 30 degree hang angle:
118" hammock (implies 102" SRL)
9'=108" between "trees" - which, in this context, will be the upper vertices of the "end" triangles formed by 2 poles and the "tension strap"
3.4" suspension length (just about what my continuous loop will provide)
7" sit height gets me a 38.2" hang point (important below)

If I dust off my trig, and if I combine 88" poles with the presumption that the plane of each "end" triangle should form a 30 degree angle w the ground, the 38.2" hang point can be formed if the "tension strap" in the center is also about 88" long. Equilateral triangle seems like a good place to start! If anything I may try narrower, to get a bit more sit height. (There's not much sit height to gain if the 30 degree angle is to be preserved).

The 7" sit height is a little low, but is a good safety feature for now. (Full disclosure: I'll "let" the 110lb son have the first try, before the 240lb me.) Plus we'll get a few more inches from the sharpened ends of the tree stakes below the lashings.

While the hammock & pole lengths match your dimensions, Latherdome… perhaps there's something I'm missing because:
* you had a lot more suspension length
* you had a lot more sit height

Also, I think I'll try some "loose" guylines (& ridgeline) , in order to see which ones "tighten" when the hammock is loaded. Perfect balance = none are very tight I think.

Hope to be posting pictures perhaps Sunday.