Simple & adjustable suspension

[bigrederik]

What I do not understand is why anyone would use a whoopie with a cinch buckle. One only needs *ONE* point of adjustability.

I kind of get it with the rest of the bling, they are for folks who cannot tie a knot.

I personally use cinch bugs, but I do sometimes carry a pair of whoppie slings also, just in case i need the extra reach either around some large trees or between trees that are very far apart. I would rather not deal with them unless I have to though.

[PingHansen]

I personally use cinch bugs, but I do sometimes carry a pair of whoppie slings also, just in case i need the extra reach either around some large trees or between trees that are very far apart. I would rather not deal with them unless I have to though.

Precisely! As mentioned earlier, I often find myself not needing my whoopies in new growth (i.e.: thinner trees, closer together), but they are always in my bag, when I go hanging, as most of the better hangs around here, are in old growth (i.e.: thicker trees, further apart).

[nothermark]

That is why I carry a dog bone or two. Just not whoopies. ;-)

[HangingOut]

Why bother with screwing around with multi-parameter suspensions when speed hooks work just fine. Worried about fraying? Change out your amsteel every trip or so. It's around $5.00 for 25 feet. I keep an eye on mine but have not changed it yet. As an additional level of safety I just go back through the CL a couple of times with the amsteel tail and do half hitches over the knot. But probably don't need to.

[Latt]

Why bother with screwing around with multi-parameter suspensions when speed hooks work just fine.

There's the whole issue of Speed Hooks not being sold any longer

[HangingOut]

There's the whole issue of Speed Hooks not being sold any longer

But lots of people still have the original speed hooks and double hammock whoopie hooks look just like them and can be used the same way. They work best with 1/8 amsteel because the hole is bigger and the knot could slip through but with a little common sense rigging to lock the whole thing they can be used with both 7/64 or 1/8 amsteel.

The title of this thread was “simple and adjustable”. Speed hooks are about as simple and adjustable as it gets. They were a game changing concept by Dutch that sort of made other suspension systems irrelevant. But you have to gear safety issues to the lowest common denominator to cover any situation that any idiot can possibility come up with. I am sure that is probably what Dutch is struggling with now trying to release SH 2.0. But even if we never see 2.0 the concept and equipment is still out there if you use a little common horse sense.

[stryder]

Not completely sure what speed hooks are, but I do now own the double hammock whoopie hooks and they are great.

I just saw a great vid of mule tape used.

So it looks pretty simple, if you can tie a know , Becket hitch in this case. But as a newbie it begs the question, why not just get 15' Tree Straps and skip the mule tape?
Tree->Tree Strap->Becket Hitch->Continuous Loop->Hammock

I am thinking it is space/weight. Mule tape seems more compact than a longer Tree Strap? And a Whoopie beats both?